Playing Acol opening 1NT with 2 doubletons

I have always been under the assumption that you don't open 1NT with a hand containing 2 doubletons when playing Acol. Well I was at a lesson for 2/1 where someone did that and I queried it with the teacher. He said it was ok and I just wondered if it was a difference because of opening strong NT versus weak NT so just wanted to check. I did google it and noted that it could be an old fashioned way as I have played for many years and was taught that when I learned. Looking at the lessons looks like it can contain no more than 1 doubleton. All help appreciated. Thanks. Eleanor

Started by ELEANOR BRADSHAW on 29 Jan 2023 at 05:21PM

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  1. GILES HANCOCK30 Jan 2023 at 12:30PM

    Hi Eleanor

     

    Definitely normal and legal with a weak NT.  We teach Beginners that it can't be 5422 shape, but that's only for Beginners really.

    6322 if you like, even 7222.

     

     

    From the NZB Manual, page D61 :

    Note: A 1NT opening bid that could contain a single [sic] (an unbalanced hand) is considered a natural 1NT opening bid if the partnership are prepared to play in 1NT or be transferred to their singleton suit and play there. It is alerted by announcing as above ["12-14"] and no further announcement is required.

     

    I note also that in Junior tournaments players may not open 2NT with a singleton (or void).    NZB Manual D43.

     

     

    Regards

    Giles

  2. ELEANOR BRADSHAW30 Jan 2023 at 03:17PM

    Hi Giles,

    I understand the idea of being able to open 1NT with a singleton as the latest allowable thing.

    it is opening 1NT with 2 doubletons that I was really wanting clarification about as it has never been used at our club. It would be nice to have written confirmation on when this came into force. I think a lot of pairs would be in big trouble with the examples you give!

    thanks

    Eleanor 

  3. NICK WHITTEN30 Jan 2023 at 04:39PM

     

    I don't think there has ever been any change here

    The "standard" with any 5422 shape is to open the 5-card suit then rebid the 4-card suit
    unless that takes the bidding too high (ie above 2 of the first bid suit)  with a minimum opener
    tn which case the 5-card suit needs to be repeated

    But with some hands that sequence is so ugly an alternative should be considered

    For example I would ALWAYS open 1NT with this hand:    S: AJ     H: AJ     D: K 4 3 2     C:  8 6 5 4 2

    To open 1C then repeat the clubs is hideous for a number of reasons
    and the hand is not strong enough to rebid 2D on the second round 

    Whereas to open 1NT gives a precise description of the hand
    AND you don't have any more problems for the rest of the auction
    AND it obstructs the opponents better than 1C
    AND  a doubleton AJ is a better chance of an extra trick from the opening lead if it is in declarer's hand rather than dummy 
    (for example if dummy has Q x  or  10 x x   or   K x x)
    AND if you do end up defending partner won't find a disasterous club lead (from K x  for example)

    To improvise in this way is not breaking any rules either in the Teaching Maunal or the Directing Manual
    Such rules only apply to a pairs METHODs
    To do something different from ones METHOD is Ok unless it happens so often it effectively becomes a different method

  4. BARRY JONES30 Jan 2023 at 11:29PM

     

    I hand I remember (Not very well) was something like:

    S: AQ

    H: K432

    D: 75432

    C: K8

    The hand was a disaster for anybody opening a Diamond  and then having to rebid 2D over a predictable 1S response, playing there opposite partners singleton 9.

    Well over half the room played this unlovely contract and yet opening 1NT showing 12-14 would have avoided all that with no real downside.

     

     

  5. GILES HANCOCK31 Jan 2023 at 07:39PM

    Yes, it tends to be when you're 45 rather than 54; and a 5-card minor; and points in the doubletons.

    But we don't teach that to Beginners, and you won't find it in any NZB lessons.

     

     

     

  6. Kathryn Shannon10 Feb 2023 at 06:41PM

    There are a number of things new bridge players are taught as "Rules" which would be much better described as "for now, it will be best if you do this, but be aware more experienced players will do abc". 

    These "Rules", while initially effective for beginning players, will hinder the players from developing their own judgement, something critical to advance in this game.

  7. NICK WHITTEN12 Feb 2023 at 10:11PM

    I always tell beginners "these are the rules. Never break them without a reason"

  8. GILES HANCOCK13 Feb 2023 at 11:27AM

    We have a problem with the word "rules".

    Some people think it is a legal thing and they mustn't break the rules for fear of a penalty.   Rules of a bidding system are really just agreements, and can be broken, and of course we still have laws/regulations on how much this is allowable and how we disclose the agreements.   Teaching beginners, well we really try to encourage them to stick to the rules of the system in their own best interest.   I prefer to say "guidelines".

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