Lesson 3 Learners

 Hello

 

I am concerned that we are teaching a response to an opening 1 suit bid, with 10-12 points and no support as a partner, as a 2NT.  I know the lesson says this is a bid of last resort, in fact it is a bid of no resort.  Surely, with 10-12 you can say anything, knowing partner must respond, and then we can say more.  None of the hands, if I recall, allow this response.  I say this with feeling, having made the response the week after teaching it, with my regular partner, and having my head ripped off and unmentionable things said after we went down.

As a part of that, having taught adults for the first time this year, I feel we need to say THE RULES WILL CHANGE!

If you actually go through the lessons, they do.  But learners stay focussed on the first thing they learn.  So when the rules change, let's tell them.

 

Anyway, have a good 2018

 

Lance

Started by LANCE BOWDEN on 05 Dec 2017 at 10:16PM

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  1. STANLEY ABRAHAMS06 Dec 2017 at 10:22PM

    Hi Lance, what exactly is the problem? Can you give us a hand or 2? For example, partner opens 1D and you hold 3-3-3-4 with 11 points, surely bidding 2NT is the perfect description, and tells partner no 4 card major, and not a 3C bid. What do you mean you can say anything, what else would you bid?

    What do you mean the rules will change? 

    I believe as a teacher we need to be able to give reasons. Perhaps you got your head ripped off for another reason, not the 2NT bid.

  2. NICK WHITTEN08 Dec 2017 at 08:24AM

     

    Hi Lance

    I would suggest you stress responder has a choice whether to bid 2/3NT or his own suit
    "Bridge is a thinking mans game"

    For example Lesson 3A Hand 3 North can respond either 2C or 2NT and they both get to the optimum contract

    But then stress you DON'T respond NT when you have a 4+ card major you can bid at the 1-level

    The problem is the lessons from 3A onwards cover a lot of ground so some bits need to be "deferred to later lessons"
    Theres no easy answer to that problem

    cheers
    Nick

  3. GILES HANCOCK08 Dec 2017 at 08:37PM

    Hi all

     

    For Beginners I think it fits in logically to give them a set of responses  1NT = 6-9 ;    2NT = 10-12 ;    3NT = 13-15 (?)

    It just completes the list of available responses - "this is what they mean".

     

     

    I can think of two basic uses for the 2NT  response :        

    Partner opens 1S and you hold  Spade-small876  Heart-smallA543 Diamond-smallA65 Club-smallK82          We teach that 2H promises a 5-card suit.

    Partner opens 1C and you hold  Spade-smallA76  Heart-smallA43 Diamond-smallK65 Club-small5432         After 3C partner may be reluctant to continue without stoppers.

     

    And similarly 3NT :

    Partner opens 1D and you hold  Spade-smallA76  Heart-smallA43 Diamond-smallK654 Club-smallK32

     

    cheers, Giles

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